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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Mar 31, 2009 8:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Seastones anyone?

This is sort of directed to the old farts around here like me, but the young whippersnappers can chime in.

Due to the icepetal blog, I've been spending a bunch of time in summer '74. So what was the purpose of these half time sets? What did Phil get that he didn't get from DS, TOO, Playin' etc.? I saw the Dead for 20 years and I love Space music, but, to me, this is:

*Molar-grinding insect music.
*Music to reduce the birth-rate percentage. I have fantasies of Pigpen - Hey baybeee, put on some Seastones and let's get it on.
*A tie-in to the ibuprofen industry.
*Music that seems to make everything played right afterwards sound gorgeous.

Anyone like this stuff?

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Apr 1, 2009 5:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

I sort of agree with you, but I still think Seastones qualifies as music. It doesn't particularly rock my socks, but if you listen to it, it has a beginning, middle, and end. The one from 6-23-74 is all right, and it actually develops.

Still though, you have to wonder why these guys were excited enough about this piece to perform it so many times. In the end, it's pretty dull.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Apr 2, 2009 5:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

still working on "my best of" Seastones/Space CD.
Maybe Cliff could recommend his fav Seastones...(or "Feedback") I need serious input...

edit: twas a lame Aprilfools post...serious about Seastones? hahaha-though the English seemed to like it, upon hearing all their whistling during it

This post was modified by rastamon on 2009-04-02 12:15:20

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Poster: craven714 Date: Apr 1, 2009 10:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-06-23.sbd.cribbs.16780.sbeok.shnf

sorry I beat you to it Larry. Everyone know this show is increadible. The DS to the US Blues is the stuff that dreams are made of. And this Seastones is not a waste of 12+ minutes of my life. You may all feel differently.
Hope this helps your 'best of' Rasta.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Apr 1, 2009 10:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

Huh. That's the show I was listening to yesterday. I totally agree, the DS>US Blues is from God. The Seastones caused me to post my diatribe. It's good we all have different tastes. :)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 2, 2009 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone? 6-14 is at the top!

Joke or not, I think the feedback to start 6-14-68 (damn you again LiA!!!) is some of the best...4 mins with excellent transition into the Eleven...really works for me. Poor AUD is all we have, but I listen to it far more than any other FB of the early era...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Apr 1, 2009 6:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

I dont spend much time with Seastones, my take on this is that it was sound that was intended to be felt, as much a heard, so perhaps you had to be there to appreciate it? I guess 9/11/74 might be the best of the worst, so to speak, 9/18/74 might be "interesting" as well?

As far as feedback, I've always enjoyed the terrifying post verse meltdown during Dark Star on 12/18/73...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-12-18.sbd.miller.97511.sbeok.flac16


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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: Apr 1, 2009 5:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

It was the same as a Brent tune, a time to hit the bathroom or get a soda.I'd much rather sit through Seastones, than I Will Take You Home or Far From Me.
Sometimes I'll skip over the track when I listen to a show, but I do own Phil & Ned's album.

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Poster: snori Date: Apr 1, 2009 6:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

But did you pay for it ? Like the 3 copies of Hank Harrison's Grateful Dead book, a well meaning friend saw it in a charity shop and got it for me .

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: Apr 1, 2009 6:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

I bought it for 3 for $10, along with Ace and Rolling Thunder.
Ace, although gathering dust now, received the most play.






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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 31, 2009 9:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

It just sounds like a couple of guys dicking around with primitive synthesizers (see George Harrison's "Electronic Sound").

The weird thing to me is, if Phil is playing Bass during the first and second sets, and he spends the Intermission onstage with Lagin making expensive farting noises, when does Phil get a 'break?' ;)

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Apr 1, 2009 5:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

"It just sounds like a couple of guys dicking around with primitive synthesizers"

Exactly. Electronic wanking off, nothing more. I'm sure to some head blitzed out of his mind on whatever it may have seemed profound in person, but on tape 35 years later it comes across as the epitomy of self indulgent dribble.

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Poster: The Other One The Middle One Date: Apr 1, 2009 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

Skuzzlebutt said:
"It just sounds like a couple of guys dicking around with primitive synthesizers"

Exactly. Electronic wanking off, nothing more. I'm sure to some head blitzed out of his mind on whatever it may have seemed profound in person, but on tape 35 years later it comes across as the epitomy of self indulgent dribble.

Yesterday, I was listening to an early '78 show and I swear somebody yelled out "Seastones!!" And all I could think was "How does somebody actually get THAT high?"

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Poster: high flow Date: Mar 31, 2009 10:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

I got yer SeaStones right here buddy!

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Poster: fakehopkins Date: Mar 31, 2009 10:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

Fakehopkins cannot tolerate such badness.

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Poster: fakehopkins Date: Mar 31, 2009 10:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

And seriously, I want to suck on your seastones.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Mar 31, 2009 9:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

i play it to freak out my cats. and to convince my neighbors that u.f.o.'s really exist.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Apr 1, 2009 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

lmfao

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 1, 2009 1:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

The book Conversations with the Dead has a great interview with Lagin where he talks about being on tour in '74, and he mentions many of the shows where he sat in.
Basically Seastones comes from his & Phil's interest in electronic music. (They'd go on to record the Seastones album in '75, along with Garcia & other folks.) Lagin was friends with the Dead and they thought it would be cool to take him along; Phil was probably eager to play more avant-garde stuff that he couldn't fit into the Dead's music. (If you read his book, he was more into "out-there" abstract-concept music than the others.)
Lagin mentions that while he wanted to play actual "compositions" in the Seastones sets, Phil mostly just wanted to make unstructured noise.
Though they're not all interesting, I like some of the Seastones sets, when Phil's getting really noisy. A couple times Garcia joins them, on 9/11 and 10/16, and it sounds just like a Dead freakout.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 31, 2009 9:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Seastones anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4HXaayk9xI